So, what do you think? Why did Fred and George never notice Peter Pettigrew on The Marauder’s Map? Do you think they just weren’t looking? Or do you think that he wasn’t on the map because of the way the Marauder’s made it?
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A lot of people are bringing up the fact that Snape saw Lupin on the map as he entered the Whomping Willow, I put this in the script but thought it caused more confusion than anything so cut it out, but to explain: Lupin was the one who used the spell to make the map work, and Snape merely came across it (Snape obviously didn’t know the password) meaning that the map thought Lupin was using it, not Snape, meaning the Marauder’s were visible.
Maybe the map showed the name "Wormy" or "Wormtail" which can be the most common name of a rat…
Fred and George just thought that their brother fondly called Scabbers "Wormy" or "Wormtail"( maybe harry thought that too) and never paid attention to it…but Remus knew at once it was Peter Pettigrew (as he was their old friend)…
The marauders excluding themselves for visibility on the map to any non marauder still doesn’t really explain why Harry doesn’t see Peter on the map given Harry is yknow JAMES’ child and therefore has James’ blood flowing in him
Peter Pettigrew was talked about in one of the movies buy Professor McGonagall at three Broomsticks
With all of that in mind, why didn't Harry see Barty Crouch Jr on the map while he was masquerading as Moody? I don't recall a specific time in which the boy who lived pulled out the Maurader's Map in #4, but Harry was concerned af whenever he had dreams about he who must not be named. Furthermore, we all know deatheaters were in the midst, so you'd think that Harry would be watching the map at all times. Maybe he was maybe he wasn't. Either way, let me quote another fictional Englishman, "We see but do not observe". S.H.
I guess they just assumed their brother was gay and decided to mind their own business. Yeah.
omg this makes so much sense! you are a genius
Does he have a lisp?
the easier answer to this is the map only shows people you're interested in (either to avoid or to find), you know to avoid the cluter of hundreds of students hiding what you wanted to find
Mrs Norris is probably a maledictus thats why she could be seen on the map?
They thought he was gay and didnt want to out him-
I have got a weird theory. Peter pettigrew saw Fred and George with the map and took his original human form and revealed how to use the map in return he asked them to not say he was the rat. 😂
He could have also changed into human form out of view and told the twins anonymously how the map worked and say there is glitch that Ron's rat is called Peter pettigrew. 🤣🤣🤣😂
Another thing might be they thought that “Peter Pettrigrew” was a “student” in Ron’s dorm, but your explanation makes more sense
And they should saw him on the map because Peter pettigrew was one of the creators AND a big contribution to that map
Also also actually actually
When Snape opens the map the marauders know it's him when he snaches it from Harry Potter maybe….suggesting that they know who opens it therefore they can see each other but others can't?
I'm not sure if this is true but I searched this up in Google and I've read another interesting theory that maybe the map didn't show an animagus unless they are in their human form and in their animal form only if the map user knew that they were an animagus and witnessed their transformation they can see them maybe that's the reason lupin saw both sirius and Peter in their animal form,Snape only saw lupin and sirius in the shrieking shack bc both were in their human form and he didn't see peter who was still a rat. They made it this way bc maybe if a teacher found out about the map their secret of being an animagus would still be a secret
how come remus didn’t recognise pettigrew in his animagus form?
because Mrs Norris had a blood curse upon her which slowly turned her into a cat like Nagini, still a person but in permanent animal form,
I understood were you were going I just said Fred and George didn’t want to bother their brothers and their “boyfriend” but then that’s out of character yours make a lot more sense and that’s what I’m going to believe
George: Fred, have you ever noticed how Ron is being followed by someone named Peter Pettigrew?
Fred: Probably just his friend.
George: He also followed Percy when we were in first grade.
Fred: Maybe he's a head boy like Percy.
George: He's also sleeping with Ron right now, look!
Fred: Oh, you're right! Maybe we should go tell Ron.
George: Yeah Let’s go back to the com- Hey look at that Fred, Dumbledore is pacing!
Fred: Oh wow I never noticed that! Wait what were we talking about again?
George: Idk, it probably doesn't matter, let's just keep watching Dumbledore moving in circles until we get caught.
Fred: Yeah, good idea.
POA; PAGE 358, CHAPTER NINETEEN: SEVERUS SNAPE SAYS THAT HE SAW LUPIN ON THE MARAUDER'S MAP RUNNING THROUGH THE TUNNEL!!!!
No way that cat was alive all that time, keep in mind the marauders were in school in 1971 and Harry 1991 and according to google mrs norris is 14 during the wizarding war of 1998
I subscribe to the theory that the map only shows you people that you know or have a personal connection to. So Fred and George never saw Peter because they'd never met him (the human Peter, that is). And Harry can see him because of his dad was best friends with him.
why is the school of harry potter called hogwarts you saying a hog has warts
this makes sense especially because you never see sirius black on the map. This also explains how lupin was able to creep up on harry and snape to take the map. But does harry just not notice lupin isn't on the map???
Respect to the twins for not saying anything about Ron Ron sleeping with a stranger
Harry saw Peter first u df
and then the reason harry saw peter was because he was the son of prongs aka one of the marauders
What about snape tho?
With the Fantastic Beast movies adding more canon, my headcanon is that Mrs. Norris is a Maledictus, same as Nagini.
Aww yes I miss the old animated intro and “ello there how’re you doing”
But Seamus Snape sees Remus!!!!
I always thought this
Wait this makes so much sense.
In Chapter 18, Snape says, he SAW Lupin (one of the Mauraders )going to the Shreiking Shack on the MAP that lay open in Lupin's office…
How is this possible then. Okay, Lupin was the one who activated it, but why did Snape not see Peter Pettigrew.
I have a theory that integrates your theory with the movies.
So I think that the magic used by the Mauraders in making the map involved the use of their blood (we have had people use blood in magic before, like the blood pact between Grindelwald and Dumbly-Dorr). It was the blood spell that allowed them to see each other in the map but prevented others from seeing them.
Now Harry being James' son essentially had his blood in him. So he had the ability to look into the map and see other Mauraders, thus he saw Pettigrew.
(This also means that Teddy Lupin would be able to see the other Mauraders. Just an afterthought)
Now, I'm not a professional theorist; in fact, this is the first 'theory' I've ever made. So if there's a loophole in this I'm sorry. But I think it works well with the story.
Thanks for sticking around and reading the entire thing if you did 🙂
they noticed ms norris durning when they were going to the DA area adn it said that mrs norris was on the 4th floor and filch on 2nd so the marauders map can see animals
Snape saw lupin when he went to bring lupin his wolfsbane potion